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Postby psnnette » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:29 pm

There looked to be a pretty big mass in the xray, that I hope Doc Roberts will question her gurus about. I think that it is a tumour. She says tumour, polycystic kidneys, or nothing at all.
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Postby Dataguru » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:35 pm

something is definitely going on for her to be that small.
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Postby psnnette » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:46 pm

I think that her vent is twisted around and misshapen from being twisted. Her poops are fairly small in diameter.

Anywho, we will see what happens.
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Postby Ingrid » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:50 am

It would be nice for the food, but note absolutely necessary I think. because 1ml of water weighs 1 mg.
a teaspoon holds 5ml, so 1 teaspoon of gel food would weigh 5mg.


This isn't going to be completely accurate, as gel food has "air pockets" in a teaspoon. I was curious so I just now weighed a tsp water and a tsp of gel food. Water weighed 4.64g and gel food weighed 2.96g. Personally, I would get a scale. ;)
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Postby Dataguru » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:17 am

Interesting. :)
You teaspoon must be a bit small.
Which gel food?
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Postby eBay Queen » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:52 pm

With Raven when her swim bladder was asperatered (sp) it did refill after a week.
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Postby Ingrid » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:05 pm

It's Mazuri omnivore formula. Yeah, my teaspoon is apparently 0.4 g off. That's why I love my salt meter (and my gram scale)!
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Postby psnnette » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:15 pm

Clementine pre aspiration-

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Jasmine's xray

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Postby KLKelly » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:50 pm

It is neat to see xrays. I'm glad you brought your camera. You can really see the difference in the two.

How is she doing today?
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Postby Dataguru » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:13 pm

So she totally deflated Clementine's caudal lobe?

Jasmine: weird. Doesn't it almost have to be a third swim bladder lobe?
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Postby Ingrid » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:15 am

Wow, Jasmine didn't have that other air pocket (?) in her earlier x-rays.
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Postby psnnette » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:56 pm

Clementine's caudal lobe was entirely deflated, and she thought even that it had inadvertently deflated a little of the other swimbladder.

With Jasmine, Dr Roberts jokingly thought it was a 3rd swim bladder, but thought that it really was a gas bubble, therefore the metronidazole gel food.

Karrie- She is moving sideways along the bottom today. I put bloodworms in there yesterday and today, thinking that she might actually get some now that she is on the bottom.
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Postby KLKelly » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:34 pm

Good for her : )

I hope Dr Roberts does get advice.

If the swimbladders (or whatever was aspirated) reinflates - will she become too floaty again? Do most of them reinflate? If so why does Dr. Roberts deflate them?
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Postby psnnette » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:52 pm

She said that it could reinflate, or not. She said that I could do the procedure at home. I guess it depends on how fast in reinflates, over time, if I would bother to do that. I wouldn't feel comfortable reinflating her, under finquel, every 3 or 4 days, that's for sure. It would be an easy enough procedure, considering her swimbladder is squished right next to her skin.

Doc Roberts called today to check in, I left a message back. She said she will call tomorrow.

Hey, what if I got a breeder box or net or whatever to hang on the inside of the top of the tank, and put Clementine in it for feeding times? Sound like a feeding plan? She seems to have 0 navigational skills for finding food. She whizzes around in circles looking for food, only to pass it by when her brakes don't work to stop and get the morsel.
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Postby KLKelly » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:54 pm

It would be a good way for her to learn to hand feed also - if you find she isn't stressed by the handling.
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